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Post by shamrockmommy on May 6, 2009 22:45:37 GMT
I have been thinking about this for some time. I have 2 pairs of boars. The first pair, Remy and Tico, texels, get along great. They are real buddies and often snuggled up together.
My next pair, Diego (aby-ruvian) and Marquee (satin peruvian) are decent to each other. Marquee is a friendly guy and even likes the other pair of boars and those 3 get along for play time.
Diego is also nicknamed Humperdink. He humps all the time. Marquee has many knots in his luxurious locks because of boar glue. uck. Marquee gets very upset and squeals, whines and screams because of Diego's incessant humping. They do not bite or fight other than chattering when Marquee has had enough. Despite the chattering, Diego will persist.
Had a long talk with my vet this afternoon and she believes the best thing for this pair is for Diego to be neutered and reduce his sexual frustration, to eliminate that testosterone.
Anyway, I'm both nervous and hopeful that this will give Marquee some peace! I have separated them befor but then Diego cries and cries for his friend. There are times that they lie peacefully near each other, they always eat together but the humping is just getting too much.
Thought I'd share, I'll update on Friday.
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Post by luvcats22 on May 7, 2009 6:12:45 GMT
i hope the op goes well for him, i was under the impression that neutering wouldnt stop the behaviour or calm down a boar, just stop them producing sperm. but anyways hope all goes well for him. xx
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 7, 2009 14:47:46 GMT
I have heard that before. But when I talked to my vet she said "oh yes" it would help with the mounting/humping behavior by lessening the testosterone. Hopefully he does fine and it helps.
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Post by Orlaith on May 7, 2009 15:04:56 GMT
Best of luck to Diego!
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 8, 2009 19:01:16 GMT
Diego made it through the surgery just fine, it took about 10 minutes total and I was able to take him home right away. He's in my lap now just hanging out and making his little werp noise. He's very subdued but eating ok. I was talking with teh vet and she has neutered numerous HAMSTERS! If you can imagine, I had no idea people even considered that for a hamster lol.
I was able to put him back in with Marquee right away after I cleaned up the condo really well. Marquee was happy to see him and they both werped and whined and Diego found a nice corner to just lay by the hay rack and munch. I am quite sure Marquee is enjoyoing the peace (as Diego surely doesn't feel up to humping!) and hopefully this helps his humping/aggression issue. I'll keep you posted on his post castration progress.
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Post by Dawn - Admin on May 8, 2009 21:32:58 GMT
So glad the op went well sounds like you had a good vet who knew what they were doing, yes please do keep us updated
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 9, 2009 1:59:11 GMT
Nightly update. He enjoyed some nice fresh brome grass (as did the other boys) tonight and I saw him eating his KM's pellets eagerly and get a nice drink of water. He took his vit. c tablet happily.
I did have some rare time to really hold and snuggle my boy tonight, he's the best snuggler of the lot. and he fell asleep in my arms. Such a good boy for that!
I will watch his incisions carefully over the next few weeks and weigh him to make sure he's staying steady (or I'd like to see him gain a few ounces as he's quite lean from chasing and humping so much).
ETA: I never explained how she did the procedure, I was allowed to stay and observe (pretty interesting!). She took him down with isoflourane then clipped his groin area. Then lots of betadine/iodine solution. Then just as quick as you please, it was slit- pop out a testical, clamp, suture, close inguinal ring, skin glue. Repeat side 2. Literally 10 mins. Took him off iso and put him in his fleece lined carrier. Shortly after he woke up "I had the S t r a n g e s t dream!" and was werp werp chatting at me. She doesn't anticipate any issues as it went so very well.
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 9, 2009 21:41:36 GMT
Day 2, checked the incision and it looks fine, no signs of opening up or oozing of any sort. Very little swelling. There is still lots of skin from his empty scrotum, but I expect that to shrink down in a week or 2. He's eating very well, much less cheeky so far (but I'm sure he's sore so that's keeping him from humping so much). The boys all got new pigloos and chubes today and they were happily exploring about their lounges!
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Post by goldenguinea on May 13, 2009 7:33:30 GMT
Don't mean to be gloomy and all but you know, porblems can occur a LONG time after castration. With my Bracken, it all went wrong 5 weeks after the surgery and I'm still fighting. Just to say to remain vigilant even weeks/months after as he is not yet out of the woods. Good luck to you.
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 14, 2009 3:02:56 GMT
Thanks goldenguinea. I check his incisions tonight and he does in fact have pus coming out of one side. I called the vet tonight (I love that she's reachable 24/7!) and she told me to express the pus out, give him a warm butt bath, then use diluted betadine solution to wipe the area clean. I had that and sterile gauze in my first aid kit.
He does seem off a bit, slower, maybe a bit hot. I go in tomorrow morning to pick up antibx for him. The vet seemed surprised, saying of the pigs she's done this is the first to get an infection, although I read on this site and others that it's very common.
Hopefully this gets knocked out quickly and he's back to normal soon. POor guy.
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 14, 2009 15:40:05 GMT
Got him some baytril this morning, 15 days worth. She's having me dose him once a day to help minimize GI upset.
Crossing my fingers here. His incision is still swollen and draining, but it's a bit of blood instead of pus. I cleaned up the area very well this morning again and changed out the fleece/carefresh as well.
He's eating fine, acting slower, that's for sure, not bossy at all. Poor man. I sure hope this was worth it! Hindsight, you know!
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 15, 2009 0:18:39 GMT
Well, Ugh. I called the vet again today because the left side of his groin was more swollen and has a drain hole about the size of an eraser tip. She had me drain and flush it a few times and said that since he's started the antibx, he should be well on the mend by Monday. Trouble is, he's not eating now. I brought him in fresh cut brome grass from the field and it was a no go (if a pig won't eat that, you're in trouble!). So mashed up some KMs pellets and syringe fed to him. I'll check him again tonight. Bad mommy. Why do vets suggest this? Why did my vet say this is the first pig this has happened to? I think I have terrible luck I hope he is ok.
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Post by shamrockmommy on May 15, 2009 3:02:02 GMT
Just went and checked my boy a few minutes ago and discovered he had moved from under the hay rack to his pigloo. I lifted the pigloo off and he ran to a corner and discovered some fresh brome grass. I dunno if he remembered me tube feeding, but it was as if, ok mom, I'll give this a try and he started eating. I think his bottom is very sore, but it does look a bit better, not so weepy/oozy and gooey, but clean and dry.
Hopefully the meds work! Ugh.
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