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Post by Niki on Feb 20, 2010 11:41:51 GMT
This is how i found his eye Saturday & it developed overnight; i had noticed white "frills" round the eyeball earlier in the week & was monitoring it. Because no piggy vet was on til Tuesday i started to treat him with chloramphenicol eye drops, thinking it was a haypoke & something was better than nothing. I'm not meaning his fatty eye, he's had that for over a year.    We saw the vet tuesday who had no clue as to what's caused it & has never seen anything like it. He prescribed ExOcin (ofloxacin) 0.3% w/v antibiotic drops for BOTH eyes. Toddie exhibits no signs of a tooth root abscess; there's nothing to be felt round his eye, he isn't bothered by it one bit, his appetite hasn't changed & there's no discharge/smell/drooling. The swelling you can see is his cornea NOT his actual eyeball but there has been a bleed on the eye itself & within the white ring round his eye there was a red one which has now gone (thank god). He does have fatty eye & the white lines you can see are fat deposits & the vet thinks it could be an infection & the fat deposits are hampering the healing. This is his good eye & you can see the white marks on his eye  We've been back today & vet's still clueless as to the cause but he's taken photos to send to an opthalmologist in the hope a cause can be given. Thankfully, today, his eye is looking better, the cornea is still swollen & the red patch is still there but the outer ring of red's gone & the vet was surprised that it looked as good as it does. We go back Wednesday, hopefully he will have a cause or Toddie's eye will have returned to normal. |
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Post by jcdscaviary on Feb 20, 2010 17:38:17 GMT
I have never seen anything like that, yikes! Hopefully the ophthalmologist can help you guys figure out what is going on and hopefully it heals up nice.
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Post by Niki on Feb 20, 2010 22:00:11 GMT
I have never seen anything like that, yikes! Hopefully the ophthalmologist can help you guys figure out what is going on and hopefully it heals up nice. It seems no-one has lol & i too am hoping for an answer on weds  |
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Post by Dawn - Admin on Feb 21, 2010 8:32:15 GMT
That's very strange Niki, hope you get some answers soon
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Post by Orlaith on Feb 22, 2010 17:14:58 GMT
Poor Toddie! It's great that he's still his normal self though. I hope you get an answer soon and that his eye keeps improving.
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Post by Niki on Feb 27, 2010 22:58:38 GMT
Toddies eye, sadly won't improve & there is no treatment for it either. He has Osseous Metaplasia which means bone is growing (the white ring that looks frilly) where it shouldn't. I have to monitor it & should it swell & not go back down or he becomes unwell then the eye will have to be removed. The opthalmologist has never seen it in a guinea pig before & yet it is an exam paper question (they have to get it right to pass) "What is wrong with this guinea pigs eye?" & yet there are no papers on how to treat it  The vet thinks the corneal swelling is due to the bone growth partially blocking the ducts within the eye & therefore not allowing the natural fluid to drain away & that the bone growth had damaged some nerves which had burst, hence the bleed. I am happy to say that his cornea has gone down & each day the bleed gets smaller but his actual eyeball does still protrude & looks identical to the pics of Megs eye on guinea lynx. More info on Osseous Metaplasia & also Osseous Choristoma; which is affecting his other eye & is how his bad eye started. www.guinealynx.info/records/viewtopic.php?p=163#163Why it happens is anyone's guess; noone seems to know why "one of those things" is the answer. |
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Post by Orlaith on Feb 28, 2010 17:41:26 GMT
Ah, sorry to hear there's no treatment for it. Does it hurt him, do you think?
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Post by paulandjeanette on Mar 1, 2010 18:29:08 GMT
Glad you got a diagnosis on this, their is also a dental problam that can do something like this as well, the roots of the molars can over grow and push on the back of the eye making it bulge out. It also looks like Toddie has what looks like a fatty eye problem as well, and the Piggy can damage his own eye by trying to remove it himself.
Paul & Jeanette
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Post by Niki on Mar 3, 2010 19:53:09 GMT
Ah, sorry to hear there's no treatment for it. Does it hurt him, do you think? He doesn't exhibit any signs of being in pain & is still eating & behaving as he has always done |
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Post by Niki on Mar 3, 2010 19:58:27 GMT
Glad you got a diagnosis on this, their is also a dental problam that can do something like this as well, the roots of the molars can over grow and push on the back of the eye making it bulge out. It also looks like Toddie has what looks like a fatty eye problem as well, and the Piggy can damage his own eye by trying to remove it himself. Paul & Jeanette Toddie does indeed have fatty eye There is no evidence of any dental problems, tooth root abscess or abnormal growth. I would imagine if either of these were present Toddie would be in pain & would either not be able to eat or would be eating less & thefore show a dramatic weight loss. He lost 20g in 2wks which is nothing, a piggy can pee 20g & more. The good news is there has been no corneal swelling for the past week, the bleed has also gone & apart from the white circle & a slight protrudance his eye looks normal. I will take photos of how it now looks to show the difference |
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Post by Orlaith on Mar 4, 2010 8:32:43 GMT
Ah, sorry to hear there's no treatment for it. Does it hurt him, do you think? He doesn't exhibit any signs of being in pain & is still eating & behaving as he has always done That's really good! It must put your mind at ease |
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Post by Niki on Mar 4, 2010 16:28:09 GMT
He doesn't exhibit any signs of being in pain & is still eating & behaving as he has always done That's really good! It must put your mind at ease It did/does Orlaith, whilst it may not have been pretty to look at it didn't/doesn't bother him in the slightest & he does have sight in the eye |
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Post by luvcats22 on Mar 5, 2010 8:12:30 GMT
awww poor toddie niki, glad it doesnt seem to be affecting him. fingers crossed for you that he continues to be ok. xx
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Post by Niki on Mar 5, 2010 19:14:28 GMT
awww poor toddie niki, glad it doesnt seem to be affecting him. fingers crossed for you that he continues to be ok. xx Thanks Dawn. This pic was taken today in the shed; the flash makes it looks worse on the pics than it does in the flesh.  The bleed is noticeably smaller, there is no corneal swelling & he's still chomping/acting as he's always done & wasn't too impressed at having a photoshoot ;D |
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Post by paulandjeanette on Mar 5, 2010 23:16:47 GMT
Mind you thinking about it one of my old males had an eye that had the frilly edge to it that looked a bit red and swollen. He had it for a few years and we was told its just an old age thing.
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Post by Niki on Mar 7, 2010 0:21:27 GMT
Mind you thinking about it one of my old males had an eye that had the frilly edge to it that looked a bit red and swollen. He had it for a few years and we was told its just an old age thing. Osseous Metaplasia isn't well know so i can only think the person who said it was old age didn't know what it was & put it down to that, At not yet 3 Toddie's far from old althought that is my personal opinion, some may think 3 is old |
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Post by paulandjeanette on Mar 7, 2010 15:15:53 GMT
It was Vedra at the Cambridge Cavy Trust who told me it was an age thing.
Perhaps it wasn't Osseous Metaplasia
Perhaps there is more than one ailment that gives the frilly edge look
Perhaps she was wrong with her diagnoses
The Guinea that had it as long since died (aged 9) so I cannot take photos for comparison
I agree 3 is not old unless its an in bred petshop piggy then it could be.
Paul & Jeanette
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Post by Niki on Mar 7, 2010 19:47:51 GMT
It was Vedra at the Cambridge Cavy Trust who told me it was an age thing. Perhaps it wasn't Osseous Metaplasia Perhaps there is more than one ailment that gives the frilly edge look Perhaps she was wrong with her diagnoses The Guinea that had it as long since died (aged 9) so I cannot take photos for comparison I agree 3 is not old unless its an in bred petshop piggy then it could be. Paul & Jeanette I adopted Toddie as a baby from a rescue, he didn't come from a petshop but i do have an in-bred petshop pig; polydactyl on one foot, who will be 5 in May & who has never ailed a thing in his life. I'm not able to determine wether your pig had the same ailment as Toddie or wether Vedra mis-diagnosed; i can only speak about my OWN pig(s) & my own experiences with Vedra! |
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