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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 22, 2007 8:29:05 GMT
Sammy has diarrhoea what can i do
He went back outside on Satruday no problems his stitches are nearly gone but when i went into check him this morning he is covered on his rear end in wet poo i have cleaned him up and changed his bedding is there anything else i can do
Shall i get him to the vets he is due to go back this week for a check up anyway after his OP
Please help
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Post by Dawn - Admin on Jan 22, 2007 11:14:53 GMT
He might have caught a chill, is he sneezing or wheezing at all? If not then just try giving him some Kaolin, the sort that is suitable for Kids. You can get it at the chemist, one dose will be enough 2.5mls.
If this doesn't work within 24 hours then I think he does need to see a vet to check him over ans see if there is anything else up.
I really hope he will be ok, keep us posted wont you? Dawn
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Post by kayjay on Jan 22, 2007 11:49:25 GMT
Hope he's ok please keep us informed
Kathryn x
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 22, 2007 13:22:04 GMT
It might well be, he only went back into the shed on Friday and he was fine all weekend until i noticed him covered with it this morning i had to go to work
Shall i take him to the vet just in case or try and treat it myself
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 22, 2007 13:59:45 GMT
spoke to the vet she said to leave him off his veggies and any problems just to take him back
All his stitches are out now and the area is still clean, ive bathed his rear end as it was messy and shall keep an eye on him
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Post by gpmum2 on Jan 22, 2007 14:11:31 GMT
It was a good idea to speak to the vet. I hope he settles down quickly now that he is off the veg. Is he back inside now?
Karen
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 22, 2007 14:18:45 GMT
Yes i have bought him back inside i can watch him more carefully in the kitchen !!
I dont understand how he has it though, Ive given the same veg to all the others thye have no problems i wonder whether the stress of the op could have triggered it
Should i give him anything else ?
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Post by Dawn - Admin on Jan 22, 2007 14:22:49 GMT
Yes stress can trigger it, I found ut last year when I went on Holiday and left Alfie and the others boarding at Heather's, I gave him a dose of kaolin and that cleared it up in no time
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 22, 2007 14:27:03 GMT
Ok i will get some kaolin, I take it i need to syringe feed him this ? that should be fun hes such a fuss pot !!
My daughter has some diaroylte (i think thats how its spelt) which help replenish the fluids should i try some of that ?
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Post by Dawn - Admin on Jan 22, 2007 14:34:01 GMT
Ok i will get some kaolin, I take it i need to syringe feed him this ? that should be fun hes such a fuss pot !! My daughter has some diaroylte (i think thats how its spelt) which help replenish the fluids should i try some of that ? Yes syringe it to him and yes you could use the diarolyte, you can syringe that to him too
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 22, 2007 16:03:12 GMT
Well the stuff i had in the cupboard was out of date so i went to the chemist and got some Diocalm which i have given him a quarter of a tablet mixed with 5ml of water
He seems ok seen no more poo so just a waiting game i spose
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 23, 2007 8:19:02 GMT
No more runny poo this morning but his poo does seem a little soft still and moist he also squueked whilst pooing
Do you think i should give him another dose of Diocalm ?
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Post by Dawn - Admin on Jan 23, 2007 10:03:48 GMT
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Post by ccc on Jan 23, 2007 13:46:50 GMT
Has he been on any medication in the past couple of weeks? Sorry if you've already said - I've only come back here this week from a long absence.
When Charlie was on Baytril twice a day for 2 weeks (and once a day for one week a couple of weeks earlier) he had a very, very sensitive tummy. Only now his tummy is settling down - he's been off his Baytril for 10 days. He is still on Metacam daily but it doesn't affect the tummy as badly as antibiotics do. A probiotic worked wonders for him - I did use Avipro Plus powder, but I ran out of that and a good friend in America sent some Bene-Bac gel to use until I could order more. If you're not already doing so, a probiotic will help settle his tummy a little. Very limited veggies is the route I went with Charlie, rather than no veggies at all, simply to make sure he got his Vitamin C (I haven't got any supplements so I had to compromise). A medium sized slice of red pepper, a sprig of coriander and a small chunk of carrot was his limit every day. And of course tons of hay - replaced twice daily to encourage him to eat more - and unlimited pellets (he lost weight with his health problems).
I hope Sammy is feeling better soon.
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 23, 2007 14:29:03 GMT
Hiya Laura
Sammy was neutered almost 2 weeks ago i think he may have had a reaction to the antibiotics he had after the surgery
He does seem brighter today but sometimes he's so laid back he'd happily sit there and observe !!
His poo's are much the same this afternoon as of this mornings ive given him another dose of the diocalm and just wait he's still in the kitchen at the moment probably keep him in again till the weekend
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Post by dianewilsher on Jan 23, 2007 14:56:07 GMT
Hiya Michelle, How's Sammy this afternoon? Perhaps you could try this.
Take Sammy off his regular food and place him on a hay and water diet only (maybe a small piece of cucumber daily, as it is virtually 100 % water and as such is a good fluid source) for three to five days. When stools are normalised, a slow and gradual introduction of other food items can be made. Identification of the cause is often impossible but, to avoid recurrence, only fresh, good-quality food items should be fed. More severe cases must be treated by a vet.
Diane
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Post by lovelypiggies on Jan 23, 2007 19:44:53 GMT
Hiya Diane
Thats a good idea
Ive had to take him to the vets tonight as he has a swelling near where his stitches were, the vet said it was a normal swelling and has given him some daytrill(?) and reading some of the above i notice this can upset their systems as well i cant win can i !! Is there anything else i could give him to stop the reaction ?
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Post by Dawn - Admin on Jan 23, 2007 20:29:09 GMT
Yes you can give him probiotics, I use avipro www.noahs-cupboard.co.uk/detail.asp?catno=4&pnum=A2A4Z or some people I know give them actimel or other probiotic yoghurt. A bit about Avipro: ESSENTIAL FOR THE MEDICINE CHEST Avipro Plus is a probiotic combination of bacteria, enzymes, electrolytes and vitamins. Its high palatability means it can be added to the drinking water making its use simple for all species. AVIPRO PLUS contains: • Two species of Lactobacillus with Streptococcus faecium which live for a short time in the gut, helping to stabilise the pH. • fructo-oligosaccharide soluble fibre prebiotic to encourage the probiotics and make them even more effective. Soluble fibre also improves absorption • vitamin A, C and E to compensate tfor the losses occurring during stress and to maximise protection *electrolytes to aid in maintaining adequate levels in wet tail which lose electrolytes For general use as a routine nutritional aid, 1 scoop per 200ml drinking water can be used. This is especially useful when animals diets are being changed or when they are being taken to shows. AVIPRO PLUS is particularly useful for rabbits and rodents which are undergoing antibiotic treatment, during which the normal gut flora may be seriously unbalanced by the treatment leading to the establishment of inappropriate bacteria, many of which can form toxins. It helps to minimise any disturbance to the normal gut flora caused by the use of antibiotics.
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Post by ccc on Jan 24, 2007 19:04:43 GMT
Baytril can be a bit harsh on the tummy, so very limited veggies (pepper, carrot and a little coriander at most), loads of fresh hay and pellets, and fresh water, and a probiotic. The probiotic works wonders in restoring the balance. If you ask your vet, she should be able to give/sell you some - I would be surprised if they didn't have any available.
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